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Taking it to the Tournament I dubbed it the Virago Pattern ShadowSword as it was counting as a Shadowsword. The tournament however hadn't even begun and I was getting questioning looks and people confirming if the TO had okayed it. Mainly from an Imperial Guard player who said that in alot of Tournaments he struggled to move his Guard Super Heavies due to their width. This was due to how the alot of tables were building heavy with Terrain in New Zealand Tournaments at least and his tank often couldn't fit down the main street of the tables let alone any alley ways. And fair enough despite being longer and slightly taller mine was about half the width and really did go wherever it pleased.
Onto the First Game, my Opponent one of the best in New Zealand rolled his eyes when I mentioned it was a ShadowSword and for the sake of me not gaming for advantage wanted to check the table for terrain pieces that a normal ShadowSword could not take cover behind but mine would, arguing that they couldn't block line of sight. Of course I agreed, I didn't want anyone thinking it was done for advantage, the conversion was purely for aesthetics. Thankfully we were playing on Pete Dunns Airport crash table where there is either no terrain or huge terrain and it was agreed that we didn't have to make any changes to how we dealt with line of sight.
In the Second game I was once again asked are you sure and that I had the TOs permission. My opponent said if it was his choice it was a no go (He did mention he would accept it as a Barbed Heirodule) but as I had the TOs permission (which he added was not sure how that happened) then that would be the last he said on the matter as I had the 'go' from the one person that mattered (Thanks Hagen). He then promptly detonated my Warlord on the first turn to teach me a lesson. When the Virago returned fire on the Riptide sticking out I forgot to check and yes hidden out of sight but next to it was a large squad of Shield drones. The Virago died next turn and I had wasted the one round of fire it had graciously been granted.
In game 3 I had now lost both my games so hard that I was against a young and enthusiastic player who really didn't care about gaming for advantage he just thought it and my army looked really cool, he was the first opponent to praise its looks. This was a fun and chill game and much needed as I was basically asleep at this point, I lost despite it being a close game due to the fact he picked the deployment side with the Superior Objective and I got the Inferior because otherwise we were tied on score and held the same number of objectives at end of game.
Game 4 I got the one opponent who was there entirely for the Pretty Toys, Photos and the Smooth Ass I had just sold him. He was quite happy with the aesthetic of the Virago and the counts as (or at least I was led to believe so).
For game 5 I got another experienced player but this time they were all good with the Virago and thought it was awesome that on first glance my army looks like a Nids army until you inspect it and find the Genestealer detachment and the Virago. He won first turn and promptly made sure that Virago was looking good from the side lines instead.
Overall I think I got about 6 or 7 people expressing that they thought it was cool over the course of the tourne and about 4 people who thought it shouldn't count as a ShadowSword some went further to say it would be a good counts as for a Barbed Heirodule but sadly most NZ tournaments are very strict on ForgeWorld models and don't allow counts as or in Hagens case anything FW with the titanic keyword.
Additionally I don't think I played the army or the Virago right, it should have been more forward and aggressive or hidden better and I hid it in the matches I shouldn't have and left it out in the open on the matches where it should have stayed hidden. Moral of the story is that sleep is important if you want to play well.
Going into 9th it will be costing me an arm and a leg in terms of CP to play it as a Shadowsword in a Nids army and even then the Barbed Heirodule will cost a fair chunk of CP. So despite it now being my favorite model I will be hamstringing myself to put it on the table.
Last but not least for I did hint at it, here is the first draft on the next character for my Genestealer detachment. Please take a guess at what you think its going to count as.
Last but not least for I did hint at it, here is the first draft on the next character for my Genestealer detachment. Please take a guess at what you think its going to count as.
So, basically, you're saying that I lost game 4 because you were modelling for advantage? Kidding! It was a pleasure to play against such a sleek leviathan. Some really good shots of the beast there. Looking at the pipework on the gun arms I thought it was the standard kit but that's converted isn't it? Nice. I would have said Warrior with Barbed Strangler or Biovore on the mystery model but if it's a genestealer character then I'm stumped. Broodlords don't have guns do they? Primus?
ReplyDeleteWell if Hagen had denied the Shadowsword due to modelling for advantage I wouldn't have had a Shadowsword in my list and your knight wouldn't have died in one shot so fair argument.
DeleteThe pipe work on the guns? I don't fully understand but the gun is made from both the Tyrannofex guns stitched together with alot of putty and the ammo bag is the one for the flamer with a tiny bit of putty to help attach it to the gun in a new spot. As for my 'Sanctus' it obviously doesn't capture the soul sight sniper feel very well then.
I forgot what a Sanctus is! I had to look it up. You do you and ignore my comments.
DeleteIf people have a hard time with 'modelling for advantage, make a cutout in the shape of the floorplan of a Shadowsword and have that underneath the base? Then you cannot be accused of modelling for advantage? I think it looks great and would play against it in a heartbeat. But I only play friendly games :)
ReplyDeleteI think if I ever want to take it to a tournament as a shadowsword again then it may be worth creating a bigger display base with the footprint of a real Shadowsword. I was thinking of it charging down a valley, that way the valley walls could be used to draw line of sight on the width but I don't plan on committing to that anytime soon. I should do more friendly games.
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